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Post by Kurt on Oct 19, 2005 17:32:57 GMT -5
Sounders are taking a team to Tanzania for a tournament/tour.
Gee what do the Timbers do. Oh thats right, "We want all of you to play in the Outdoor on local teams"
Who really has the better organization.
Oh and Seattle still sucks
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Post by RC on Oct 19, 2005 18:31:26 GMT -5
so maybe they'll all get attacked by rebels or get somesort of disease.
Seattle must have deeper pockets to spend money...less attendance, assume the player salary structure is the same, Quest can't be cheap...something is still wrong with my math (i.e. if pdx lost money, seems that they should have also).
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Post by starfire on Nov 6, 2005 10:06:41 GMT -5
The Sounders are structured as a "non-profit entity." They have been since 1994. So the ownership group can claim money put into the team as "donations," and can write off losses on taxes as such too. As for the Tanzania trip...it is being organized by All Nations Cup people. They run a charity and also coordinate our huge local soccer tourney for local "internationals" each year: www.AllNationsCup.orgSeattle soccer is clicking on almost all levels. Just very little in-stadium support for USL-1. |
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Post by RC on Nov 8, 2005 20:31:56 GMT -5
I'm not sure how much effect the non-profit structure would give for purposes of writing off losses versus the need for capital funding. Perhaps owner capital contributions can be recharacterized as "donations" but it still comes down to funding. Great, the tax structure helps...for each $1 loss you get, say, a 40% tax savings...that means you are still out of pocket 60 cents on every dollar...it's still an economic loss of money. Some for-profit entities can do the same thing depending on the number of owners, their level of participation, and so on. (Deduct losses against other sources of income, not convert capital contributions to charitable donations.) In either case, someone still has to have deep enough pockets to keep funding the operating loss.
But as pointed out, support for soccer may be successful at other levels, but it just doesn't appear to be at the professional level yet. (Not trying to be a nay-sayer, merely realistic and wondering the age old question of how to get folks into the stands.)
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Post by starfire on Nov 12, 2005 22:47:14 GMT -5
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Post by rick on Nov 12, 2005 23:38:31 GMT -5
Hmmm. IS AH Seattle-bound for '06? We couldn't afford to keep him this season so with our new cost-cutting measures in place for 2006 who knows. That is assuming he would be interested after the shoddy way he was treated. |
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Post by Kurt on Nov 13, 2005 12:23:43 GMT -5
I agree. The way Aaron was treaded by the Timbers it seem likely he would join Jake and Ben. The only saving grace would be a new GM-Coach maybe talking some of the boys up north Portland would be a better place to play. Until the ownership thing is set in stone Portland will continue to loose players to clubs that offer more to their players.
Oh and unlike my counterparts who post on the SCUSA board good for Aaron! Maybe the boys will someday understand on the other board that Management here in Portland needs to get nuts together or we will continue to loose our players.
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